Saturday at Centennial

Saturday’s adventure took us to the northeast side of Carson City and beyond. Scott J, Jesse, and I met up in our neighborhood, and rode towards Centennial. After crossing under the freeway, we entered the neighborhood east of Lompa Lane. It’s not as much a neighborhood as it is an encampment though. There is little focus on landscaping, and each property is different from the next, a mixture of trailers, mobile homes, dilapidated sheds, old cars, and miscellaneous collections of odds and ends. It’s also the place to ride if you’re looking to try your skills at outrunning unchained, bicycle hating dogs. Thankfully we encountered none of these, and just pedaled leisurely through.

Centennial Trail
Centennial Trail

After a few miles we arrived at the Centennial Trail. A weathered and abused sign marks the beginning of this trail network at the northeast most corner of Centennial Park. Early into the rocky entrance, we discovered that we had dressed perfectly. It was warmer than the overcast sky made it look. The combination of shorts, light jerseys, and wind vests kept us comfortable the whole day.

Jesse and Scott J
Jesse and Scott J

When we reached Moundhouse, we saw the new V&T grade. If we would have had more time, water, and food, I would have loved to explore the new grade to see how far it goes up. The surface looked packed, and would probably be a fun ride before the railroad tracks are installed. I’ll have to find out more about this, and maybe we can get a ride together.

Although the new railroad grade cut right through the existing trail, it only cut off the eastern tip. A new trail has already been established on the west side of the grade, and harmony has been restored.

Scott J
Scott J

We rode the loop counterclockwise. The way back west is my favorite half of the trail, and includes most of the fun descents. I’m not real familiar with all the trails out there, but it seems most of the new trail construction has occurred in the northwest corner of the trail system. We even passed what looks to be the beginning of a little freeride course. After a little confusion on which way to go, we found the best route down the mountain.

Centennial Trail
View of the Carson Range

Once back to the pavement, we decided to take the long way home. We pedaled along Arrowhead Drive, through the industrial side of town, and got to see the finished mountain top removal at the airport. It looked like a cleaner version of the Carson City landfill. We caught the 395 bike path at Emerson, and headed south. Jesse made a joke about the electrical station being a good place to hang out if you were cold with all the electromagnetic radiation coming off it, and as soon as we got to the other side of it, there was a homeless person doing just that! There seems to be a growing homeless situation in Carson. I wonder if these people have anywhere to turn for help?

We continued along the bike path through the College Parkway shopping center, and rode it all the way back to our neighborhood. It was a great ride! We got some miles in, and got to see a lot of different things.

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21 thoughts on “Saturday at Centennial

  1. I happen to live in northeast Carson past Lompa Lane and I take great offense to your entry “After crossing under the freeway, we entered the neighborhood east of Lompa Lane. It’s not as much a neighborhood as it is an encampment though. There is little focus on landscaping, and each property is different from the next, a mixture of trailers, mobile homes, dilapidated sheds, old cars, and miscellaneous collections of odds and ends.”

    This is not indicative of all the northeast Carson area past Lomnpa Lane.

    Not all of us can afford stick built homes, although I happen to have one, and unfortunately, we cannot control how our neighbors take care of, or neglect, their yards and property.

    I have ridden my bike all over this town for over 30 years and I have seen neighborhoods all through this town be revived and neglected and rundown again over and over. It’s just a matter of who you are stuck living next to and unfortunately CC and R’s do not force people to clean things up. Although, I guess there is a new code enforcement agency that can help if its really bad. And with the economy, the bad areas do seem to be getting worse.

    But again, not all northeast Carson past Lompa Lane is a “encampment”.

  2. Thanks for your comment.

    First of all, I didn’t say ALL, but you’re right… it does go back to a homogenized neighborhood within a few blocks.

    But secondly, I didn’t say that an encampment was a bad thing. Nor did I say that perfectly landscaped sameness was a good thing either. There are pros and cons for each style. I was merely describing what I saw as I rode through that particular section, and I stand by that statement. There is no master plan in that particular section. There is something to be said for the self expression and self sufficiency of that model, and it is interesting to see how people make due with what they have. I was not judging people or lifestyles in this post by any means. Shoot, I have loose dog, speeding, and graffiti problems in my own neighborhood. Each neighborhood has its own strengths and weaknesses.

  3. I need to apologize to the residents of northeast Carson for my statement “not all northeast Carson past Lompa Lane is a “encampment””. I apologize for stating unintentionally that any part of that area is an encampment. I did not realize when I was typing that out that I was calling some of that area as “a place occuried by a camp” as defined on the msn encarta dictionary.

    Jeff, calling the area an encampment is very derogatory statement. Most, if not all of that area has been owner occupied, single family dwellings for many decades. Some get rundown and some get fixed up.

    Other newer areas, more clearly layed out in subdivisions, will also experience this cycle. I have seen it here many times.

    I appreciate your return comments but I think you owe the people that live in that area an apology.

  4. Once I saw Jeff spit on the sidewalk while riding through the West side of Encampment..I mean Cartoon…I mean Carson City.

    He should have to apologize for that too.

  5. I guess you can take the guy out of Douglas County but you can’t take the Douglas County out of the guy.

    Ouch now all of Douglas County is going to need Kleenex for their sensitivities.

  6. I will apologize (and I do) if I’ve hurt someone’s feelings, but I was merely describing my memory and feelings of the ride. I don’t think of possessions as status symbols, so this particular imagery is not offensive to me. Was my writing too colorful? Maybe. Would other words have been more politically correct, but less interesting? Possibly. Probably depends on who’s reading it. And who exactly is reading this?

    I don’t get paid to write this blog. In fact, I spend quite a bit of my own money and time to keep it going with several updates per week. Several hundred people come to Bike Carson each week. People get to this blog by random internet searches, bookmarks, and links. I’ve written hundreds of posts, thousands of words, and taken thousands of pictures. I really don’t know who my audience is outside a couple dozen people or so that I’ve talked to. I would challenge anyone to write a blog of this sorts and not offend someone from time to time. I’m probably lucky I don’t have to apologize a lot more.

    So in a roundabout way, this is an apology of sorts. And thanks for reading! I hope you come back.

  7. Apology accepted. I didn’t mean to be so sensitive, but it really wasn’t a very nice way to describe someone’s neighborhood.

    Yes I can stop visiting this site but that’s just not my style.

    I have enjoyed your site a lot and all the great post since the article in the Appeal last fall and I thought you cared about the community. When we start describing things in a negative way, people start treating them in a negative way and that isn’t right. I just had to stand up for the people and the property they have probably worked really hard to have in that area. I have worked really hard for the things I have and I work hard taking care of them. Sure they are only material things, but I value them because of the effort it took to get them.

    Your last post says it all, “a cycling community” is a really worthwhile cause.
    I’m an avid bike rider and enjoy riding all over this town and in the mountains and value people for all they have to offer.

    keep riding.

  8. I have to side with Jeff on this. We discussed the “encampment” issue for a moment during the ride out. Keep in mind most of our remarks were in regard to the area in between East Nye / Carmine Street going North and South and North Carson / East Graves (College Pkwy) East and West

    My observation of the neighborhood in the area described above reflects what Jeff said but I will take it a bit farther. I see many small and large properties that are smashed together with absolutely no regard for symmetry. Some of these properties have homes built upon a foundation of concrete, others are perched upon cinder blocks, axles & wheels, or simply jacked up on stilts with skirts loosely fashioned upon it’s base. Some of the yards are meticulously cared for while others have not been groomed in decades. I see broken fences, overgrown cottonwood trees and tumbleweeds.

    Each street has at least one house that has become storage for multiple vehicles, RV’s and personal recreation devices – working or not. There are no sidewalks, save for on a few of the main East/West streets. Some of the Russian olive groves have taken control of the properties they grow out of, invading other properties as well.

    Does the upkeep of this neighborhood reflect the character of it’s residents? Not necessarily. I do think however it does perhaps hint that the owners/renters of these properties don’t hold landscaping on the top of their to-do lists each week. I think that many of these people work two or three jobs and simply don’t have the time to focus on yard maintenance. I think many are elderly or disabled and don’t have the physical resources to commit to such a task. There are also the people that just plain don’t give a shit about the area around them (and don’t care about what others think – for that matter!).

    I moved to Carson City when I was 2 years old and my family rented a double-wide on Lorraine Street (Just East of Lompa). I have a great number of outstanding memories of that neighborhood. It looked just the same back in 1979 as it does today in my opinion, much like a refugee camp or a gypsy community.

    I don’t think Jeff is trying to offend anyone. Knobby Tire can be offended all he/she wants, but the bottom line is that area as a whole looks like crap. On the other hand, I am glad that Knobby Tire cares enough to be offended. Go get em’, tiger! (In all seriousness, good for you for sticking up for your turf, maybe if more of your neighbors were like you things would get cleaned up).

  9. What’s funny is that the word “encampment” was rattling around in my head, because of a game my son and I were playing. The encampment was a safe haven for adventurers. A place to sleep safely behind the guarded walls, talk to people, visit the blacksmith, or buy items for your adventure. There were tents, wagons, and campfires scattered about. You were safe from the dangers of the wilderness in the encampment. Dangers like the nasty quill rats, but especially those damn zombies…

  10. Come on Knobby..Don’t do that. This has generated a lot of discussion off of this board about the power of words. I for one know exactly what you’re talking about concerning only having so much control over your environment. My 1st condo was nice when I bought it and then investors sucked em up, rented em out to people who didn’t care. I’m not implying this is the case but I’ve seen good go bad and as you stated it could happen to nicer neighborhoods….Peace not war….Hang in and write more if it helps…but hang in! These folks are nice if slightly misguided…now i’m open for attack…thanks knobby..

  11. EMO

    Honesty is something some people cannot handle. Please don’t leave on my account, it’s really not worth losing a great resource because someone has a different opinion as you do.

    I respect your opinion that your neighborhood is fantastic in your eyes. I don’t agree with you, but I’m not going to stop visiting this site because of it.

  12. Let me be the first to say that the most important part of this post was the great review of Centennial park! I had to travel to California over the weekend and it was raining so hard. All of the trails I would normally ride over there would not be ridable for weeks. The snowpack in the sierras is high, and the trails in Carson City are PRIMO! We live in the greatest area.
    Knobby Tire- Sheesh Just for the record, you have chosen to live in a slum. You may not have the ability to control how your neighbors take care of their homes, but you do have control over where you live. At least you take care of your own place, which is good, but overall, you live in a slum area. Don’t make it sound like you don’t have a choice. I could buy the argument that maybe 10% of the people there are truly victims, either children or the elderly/disabled that have been abused. The rest are probably drug addicts, alcoholics, or people who don’t believe they have the ability to live somewhere else. Knobby, your victim mentality is the last thing we all need now. I went to the Carson Hot Springs the other day and a 4 year old kid referred to me as “ That hairy fat person” . Well you know what… He was right. I am a hairy fat person. Do I care? Yes, I do. But not enough to stop me from eating a #9 combo from Jimboys tonight. What I am saying is I cant go around asking people not to call me fat and hairy, when I am fat and hairy. You cant go around and ask people to not call your neighborhood what it is. If Jeff Mosers opinion of your neighborhood offended you soooo bad, you should try to understand why that is. My guess is that you are not proud of where you live and you feel trapped there. Well, you’re not. Your solution is to not read the blog, Block out the reality of the situation. Close your mind… That is not the answer. Don’t tell me people cant afford to live in stick built homes. They just don’t want them bad enough. Sheesh, I suggest you go read the story of Helen Keller, or Barac Obama, the first African American President of the United States who overcame the odds coming from a broken home.
    Jeff Kindly attempted to “spin” his word choice into saying he meant it was a safe haven ( wuss) But I know what he meant. I just drove by that neighborhood on the way home from a meeting, and I saw a group of young adults hanging out outside of a mobile home partying and listening to the BEAUTIFUL sound of the stereo from a mid-90’s era Honda that needed a paint job. Easily the stereo was worth more than the car. This is what was important to them. I can relate to that. I was there once… When I was there, I lived in a slum. I didn’t care, because I had beer and a good stereo. So knobby tire, remember this, you live in a slum. You are also a walking, talking miracle on earth, capable of achieving your wildest dreams. Take advantage of that and live where you want to live.

  13. Wow – for a minute there I got confused thinking I was reading the comment on a Nevada Appeal article! Holy shit people, back away from your keyboards and go ride your bikes!

  14. Being an outsider and one who has never ridden a mile of Carson City’ streets or trails, I personally cannot judge the legitimacy of Jeff’s observations. However, reading this blog on a regular basis for over a year and finally, meeting Jeff in person, I can attest to his sincerity, his commitment and his good nature towards his fair city. He cares greatly for the town, the people who live there and the beautiful environment that surrounds his home. His involvement with local trail organizations, commuter groups, his co-workers and even local government is admirable and many have benefited from or enjoyed the fruits of his labor. I feel you are all lucky to have him as a friend, a community activist and a neighbor.
    That said, I do feel the need to make a suggestion. I think given this unfortunate “encampment-gate” slip up on his part, a concerted effort should be made on his part to atone for his sins, if you will. First off, I suggest you get local media at his door, with microphones and HD cameras and demand an on-air apology to all who live on Loompa Lane. Then, a series of talk show appearances would not be a bad idea. Leno, Letterman, Ellen and maybe even Oprah. Just to get his story out there, let the public throw stones and vent their collective anger. Once the hoopla dies down, the media has packed up and headed over to Michael Phlep’s house again, we can all get some sleep.
    Give it some thought.

  15. Noooo! Go read the new post. Nothing to see here people! Move along.

    If you were wondering where we were yesterday…Dream Host was having problems with the DNS servers. Many customers were affected. It was not the hand of god smiting me for my words as you may have suspected.

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